{"id":1914,"date":"2022-11-10T14:25:21","date_gmt":"2022-11-10T13:25:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/alexanderkoch.info\/?p=1914"},"modified":"2025-07-19T13:29:26","modified_gmt":"2025-07-19T11:29:26","slug":"podcast-words-between-the-lines-of-art-renzo-martens-and-alexander-koch-2022-teil-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/alexanderkoch.info\/en\/podcast-words-between-the-lines-of-art-renzo-martens-and-alexander-koch-2022-teil-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcast: Words Between the Lines of Art &#8211; Renzo Martens and Alexander Koch (Audio 78 min, 2022) \u2013 Teil 1+2"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border-radius: 12px;\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/0lmxwbSuUVoQIlh75LurmO?utm_source=generator\" width=\"100%\" height=\"352\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border-radius: 12px;\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/1g3QXYQcVDYPVhtVTqBZl7?utm_source=generator\" width=\"100%\" height=\"352\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Renzo Martens became widely recognized almost overnight when he first published his film Enjoy Poverty in 2008. This film became one of the internationally most debated art works due to its stark provocation. The conversation with Alexander Koch looks deeply into Martens motives to play the controversial role in the art world that he has chosen to assume. It adresses the fundamental inequalities that fund and shape contemporary art, showing artworld insiders how complicit they are in the violence they may believe to critique while actually perpetuating an extractivist modus operandum. This is not just a podcast &#8211; it is in parts a manifesto for fair play, for justice and equality, for restitiution, and for an overdue change of the institutions and economics of (critical) art.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Meine Gespr\u00e4che mit K\u00fcnstlerinnen und K\u00fcnstlern basieren auf einer langen Freundschaft und Zusammenarbeit. Ich denke, sie gehen tiefer als die meisten Interviews es k\u00f6nnen. Mit Renzo Martens verbrachte ich einen langen Abend in meinem Gartenhaus in Brandenburg \u2013 irgendwann starteten wir das Mikrofon.    <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"rop_custom_images_group":[],"rop_custom_messages_group":[],"rop_publish_now":"initial","rop_publish_now_accounts":[],"rop_publish_now_history":[],"rop_publish_now_status":"pending","footnotes":""},"categories":[10],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1914","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-conversations","entry"],"translation":{"provider":"WPGlobus","version":"3.0.2","language":"en","enabled_languages":["de","en"],"languages":{"de":{"title":true,"content":true,"excerpt":true},"en":{"title":false,"content":false,"excerpt":false}}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/alexanderkoch.info\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1914","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/alexanderkoch.info\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/alexanderkoch.info\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alexanderkoch.info\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alexanderkoch.info\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1914"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/alexanderkoch.info\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1914\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3513,"href":"https:\/\/alexanderkoch.info\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1914\/revisions\/3513"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/alexanderkoch.info\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1914"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alexanderkoch.info\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1914"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alexanderkoch.info\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1914"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}