{"id":1881,"date":"2022-10-10T07:44:03","date_gmt":"2022-10-10T05:44:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/alexanderkoch.info\/?p=1881"},"modified":"2026-11-11T00:43:04","modified_gmt":"2026-11-10T23:43:04","slug":"kow-podcast-17-words-between-the-lines-of-art-chto-delat-and-alexander-koch-2022","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/alexanderkoch.info\/en\/kow-podcast-17-words-between-the-lines-of-art-chto-delat-and-alexander-koch-2022\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcast: Words Between the Lines of Art &#8211; Chto Delat and Alexander Koch (Audio 53 min, Kloster Lehnin, 2022)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border-radius: 12px;\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/5VaesVET63AddDpaaSSYOU?utm_source=generator\" width=\"100%\" height=\"352\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<h2>Podcast \u201eWords Between the Lines of Art\u201c von KOW, aufgenommen in Brandenburg, 31.10.2022.<\/h2>\n<h2>Mit Dmitry Vilensky und Olga Egorova\/Tsaplya (Chto Delat) und Alexander Koch.<\/h2>\n<p>Dmitry Vilensky and Olga Egorova\/Tsaplya give deep insight not only into Chto Delat\u2019s history and their individual relationship to language, but also into the political situation in Russia, which forced them to flee St. Petersburg in haste a few weeks earlier. In the conversation, recorded in Brandenburg on October 31, 2022, they share their knowledge of historical and current cultural struggles in Russia, as well as their feelings about dehumanization, tenderness and their new situation as political refugees in Germany. What does it mean for them to be Russian artists today? And what will they do in the future?<\/p>\n<p>Dmitry Vilensky and Olga Egorova\/Tsaplya co-founded the Russian collective Chto Delat in 2003. Since then they have collaborated on numerous exhibitions and publications worldwide. For many years, Chto Delat has been considered the most important voice of contemporary art from Russia.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ich lud Olga Egorova\/Tsaplya und Dmitry Vilesky von Chto Delat in mein Gartenhaus in Brandenburg, nachdem sie aus Russland hatten fliehen und alls zur\u00fccklassen m\u00fcssen. Ich habe ihren Weg \u00fcber zehn Jahre lang begleitet. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"rop_custom_images_group":[],"rop_custom_messages_group":[],"rop_publish_now":"initial","rop_publish_now_accounts":[],"rop_publish_now_history":[],"rop_publish_now_status":"pending","footnotes":""},"categories":[10],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1881","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-conversations","entry"],"translation":{"provider":"WPGlobus","version":"3.0.6","language":"en","enabled_languages":["de","en"],"languages":{"de":{"title":true,"content":true,"excerpt":true},"en":{"title":false,"content":false,"excerpt":false}}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/alexanderkoch.info\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1881","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/alexanderkoch.info\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/alexanderkoch.info\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alexanderkoch.info\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alexanderkoch.info\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1881"}],"version-history":[{"count":12,"href":"https:\/\/alexanderkoch.info\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1881\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4776,"href":"https:\/\/alexanderkoch.info\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1881\/revisions\/4776"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/alexanderkoch.info\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1881"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alexanderkoch.info\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1881"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alexanderkoch.info\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1881"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}